Lots to think about here, thanks. One comment stands out to me - that they believe less gatekeeping will lead to less detrans. I suspect that may be backwards. When more individuals are transitioned without any real process in place to help them deal with the circumstances that led to the self-ID of trans in the first place, then it's inevitable that the rates of regret will only increase. Especially given how people's beliefs fluctuate over time and that teens and children are in a time of rapid change. I am also surprised to see that political beliefs play such a strong role in changing an individual's personal assessment of their gender identity.
It's simplistic, but I can't help but wonder if the words gender identity should be removed from language and not something anyone should be encouraged to consider. I'm older - but I still recall puberty as a difficult period with lots of adjustments. Giving teens an "out" to believe they can pause puberty or stop it or change it seems like a double edged sword that healthcare professionals should have taken the time to understand better before wielding against innocent victims.
"When more individuals are transitioned without any real process in place to help them deal with the circumstances that led to the self-ID of trans in the first place, then it's inevitable that the rates of regret will only increase. Especially given how people's beliefs fluctuate over time and that teens and children are in a time of rapid change."
This is so obviously true! I'm so disappointed at how the left and the propaganda machine spin the message to distract people from this reality. And so disappointed in the consumers of these messages who are so willing to throw common sense and critical thinking out the window.
Again, excellent work here, Ritchie. In case you use the word damning again, here's the spelling. I think you should use this word often! I refer back to the damning sworn affidavit that the PhD psychologist submitted to my 1990s divorce, in which she said she diagnosed my then-husband in the first meeting with him. She went on to say that my unwillingness to stay in the marriage was the reason he "decided to live full-time as a woman." This puts the actual diagnosis in my sphere, implying that if I'd made some kind of scheduling agreement about his cross-dressing, he would have stayed in "Daddy mode" longer. This clinician is still in practice. More in my memoir, In the Curated Woods, True Tales from a Grass Widow (iuniverse, 2022)
The fact that you are doing the work of mental health researchers, doctors and academics is abandonment of medical ethics. First, detransitioners need to be treated with dignity. When TRAs and "the transitioned" don't, be sure to make it clear that they are the ones exhibiting the tantrum behavior. They do this because they also don't know if they'll wake up tomorrow with horrific infections and regret, working too hard to pass as the opposite sex.
Like me, a mere trans widow, you feel the need to warn others against taking this path in a sudden, rushed, uninformed manner. This is a great weight and burden--you do not deserve it.
If I'd been your therapist, for the sake of of the discussion, do you think you'd have accepted my opinion that you were not the ideal candidate for surgery, as you'd been expressing doubts and put it off before? I so want to reach back in time and be that person! My sense is that, any young gay fellow might have a passing fantasy of being female at some point, just because we live in a mostly heterosexual world. Your writing is quite important. You are exposing corruption and propaganda. It is likely that the "gender dysphoria" diagnosis is never actually stable, it strays too far from mind/body, introducing scars and hormonal imbalances. Please be strong, take heart. Sift through the nonsense with a clear mind and a suit of armor around your emotions. Ute
"The fact that you are doing the work of mental health researchers, doctors and academics is abandonment of medical ethics. "
Yes! The community members have to do the work themselves because those in the captured institutions have lost their collective minds and all sense of ethics.
I've known this for 30 years, but had no voice. I did explain to my confused, mentally ill husband that the childhood factors, his controlling, angry father, the lack of a relationship with this same sex parent probably was one cause of his distress. There's no research on this, none! Damn that Ray Blanchard and his categories of cross-dressers! They think they're sexy sex researchers. They've solved nothing. It's up to the guys in Ritchie's group to figure it out. I so want them to publish a book! I recommend my publisher and would help fund! And donate nature photos, like the 50 in mine.
Ute Heggen, author, In the Curated Woods, True Tales from a Grass Widow (iuniverse, 2022)
"If you want fewer detransitioners, perhaps organisations that profit from gender-affirming should drastically review safeguarding procedures and stop people slipping through the net." Exactly.
I read a 2021 survey in which, out of 237 detransitioners, only 10% said discrimination was a factor (and that doens't mean it was the sole or main cause of detransition), and only 13% said lack of support was a factor in their detransition. Meanwhile, 70% had a change of heart, realizing the gender dysphoria was caused by other issues (something other than an actual need to chemically and/or surgically alter their appearance to that of the opposite sex). Yet the lie remains that the tiny amount of detransitioners (they spout a 2% statistic that does not hold true today, and was questionable years ago) detransition only because society is not accepting of them. This is ironic in light of the fact that they also say that the extremely sharp increase in trans-identification, particularly among young people is a result of much better acceptance of transgender individuals. So lack of societal acceptance causes detransition and societal acceptance causes the sharp increase in transitioning. And also, we now live in very transphobic times. Hm, I'm getting mental whiplash from turning my brain back and forth to understand these ideas. And when I say "they" are saying this, I hear it often, but I just watched John Olliver say all three things!
Anyway, thank you for putting all this together. When trying to explain what's wrong with the "affirmation theory," one needs facts to work with, and you have gathered many, along with your clear, insightful analysis.
"Yet the lie remains that the tiny amount of detransitioners (they spout a 2% statistic that does not hold true today, and was questionable years ago) detransition only because society is not accepting of them. This is ironic in light of the fact that they also say that the extremely sharp increase in trans-identification, particularly among young people is a result of much better acceptance of transgender individuals. So lack of societal acceptance causes detransition and societal acceptance causes the sharp increase in transitioning. And also, we now live in very transphobic times. Hm, I'm getting mental whiplash from turning my brain back and forth to understand these ideas."
Yup, their rhetoric does not stand up to scrutiny. I wish more people would take a moment to question all the contradictions instead of just blindly accepting one-liners.
thanks for this info. the public thirsts for knowledge about these issues and seems addicted to these false narratives supplied by the gender indusyry. in a way the propagandists are simply giving the public what they want. initially the person interfering or interrupting an addict with their high is an unwelcome guest. but eventually some may realize they shouldnt be glad about info that ultimately harms many by supporting fraudulant care. dead men tell no tales and i dont blame the ones who barely made it or are barely making it if they dont get involved. in my opinion detrans could be up to 75%. theres no evidence its not. counts designed to specially exclude detrans ppl are like saying theres no such thing as rocks bcuz we checked the entire sky. studys showing kids desist without meds or social transition to me give better evidence of desistance rates. also, how quicky gender care and meds are provided make the issue partially moot. the clinics could provide all sorts of #s. but they dont. they dont want to know how many regret
I love this line: "counts designed to specially exclude detrans ppl are like saying theres no such thing as rocks bcuz we checked the entire sky."
And I especially agree with the sentiment that they don't want to know how many regret... they just want to keep this train plowing along as quickly as possible and want nothing & no one to get in it's way.
Ritchie, at the risk of overstepping, I would like to contact you regarding therapeutic concepts for your group of detrans men. I see categories:
1. Physical health, the hormones & surgeries decisions. Therapies for bone stability (as a post-menopausal woman, I wonder. We are told to be active, do weight bearing activities) There is the additional trial of having scars. Acupuncture may help. Breast implants are only made to last 10 years. I think my ex is on his third (always bigger) so removal surgery~not replacement.
2. The burden of knowing it was mental health and surgical malpractice (you are doing much on this front with your lawsuit. Please keep in mind that doctors are watching. Some may put down the scalpel. Candice Bone is the US attorney starting to handle malpractice cases. (yup. search results)
3. The deep societal influences. Is there any benefit to looking into male relatives before the fathers? The pre-WW2 generation had it different. Women died, men had to bottle-feed and raise children. Histories of trauma are hard to examine, but after, there is relief. I know. Have done.
Lots to think about here, thanks. One comment stands out to me - that they believe less gatekeeping will lead to less detrans. I suspect that may be backwards. When more individuals are transitioned without any real process in place to help them deal with the circumstances that led to the self-ID of trans in the first place, then it's inevitable that the rates of regret will only increase. Especially given how people's beliefs fluctuate over time and that teens and children are in a time of rapid change. I am also surprised to see that political beliefs play such a strong role in changing an individual's personal assessment of their gender identity.
It's simplistic, but I can't help but wonder if the words gender identity should be removed from language and not something anyone should be encouraged to consider. I'm older - but I still recall puberty as a difficult period with lots of adjustments. Giving teens an "out" to believe they can pause puberty or stop it or change it seems like a double edged sword that healthcare professionals should have taken the time to understand better before wielding against innocent victims.
"When more individuals are transitioned without any real process in place to help them deal with the circumstances that led to the self-ID of trans in the first place, then it's inevitable that the rates of regret will only increase. Especially given how people's beliefs fluctuate over time and that teens and children are in a time of rapid change."
This is so obviously true! I'm so disappointed at how the left and the propaganda machine spin the message to distract people from this reality. And so disappointed in the consumers of these messages who are so willing to throw common sense and critical thinking out the window.
Again, excellent work here, Ritchie. In case you use the word damning again, here's the spelling. I think you should use this word often! I refer back to the damning sworn affidavit that the PhD psychologist submitted to my 1990s divorce, in which she said she diagnosed my then-husband in the first meeting with him. She went on to say that my unwillingness to stay in the marriage was the reason he "decided to live full-time as a woman." This puts the actual diagnosis in my sphere, implying that if I'd made some kind of scheduling agreement about his cross-dressing, he would have stayed in "Daddy mode" longer. This clinician is still in practice. More in my memoir, In the Curated Woods, True Tales from a Grass Widow (iuniverse, 2022)
The fact that you are doing the work of mental health researchers, doctors and academics is abandonment of medical ethics. First, detransitioners need to be treated with dignity. When TRAs and "the transitioned" don't, be sure to make it clear that they are the ones exhibiting the tantrum behavior. They do this because they also don't know if they'll wake up tomorrow with horrific infections and regret, working too hard to pass as the opposite sex.
Like me, a mere trans widow, you feel the need to warn others against taking this path in a sudden, rushed, uninformed manner. This is a great weight and burden--you do not deserve it.
If I'd been your therapist, for the sake of of the discussion, do you think you'd have accepted my opinion that you were not the ideal candidate for surgery, as you'd been expressing doubts and put it off before? I so want to reach back in time and be that person! My sense is that, any young gay fellow might have a passing fantasy of being female at some point, just because we live in a mostly heterosexual world. Your writing is quite important. You are exposing corruption and propaganda. It is likely that the "gender dysphoria" diagnosis is never actually stable, it strays too far from mind/body, introducing scars and hormonal imbalances. Please be strong, take heart. Sift through the nonsense with a clear mind and a suit of armor around your emotions. Ute
"The fact that you are doing the work of mental health researchers, doctors and academics is abandonment of medical ethics. "
Yes! The community members have to do the work themselves because those in the captured institutions have lost their collective minds and all sense of ethics.
I've known this for 30 years, but had no voice. I did explain to my confused, mentally ill husband that the childhood factors, his controlling, angry father, the lack of a relationship with this same sex parent probably was one cause of his distress. There's no research on this, none! Damn that Ray Blanchard and his categories of cross-dressers! They think they're sexy sex researchers. They've solved nothing. It's up to the guys in Ritchie's group to figure it out. I so want them to publish a book! I recommend my publisher and would help fund! And donate nature photos, like the 50 in mine.
Ute Heggen, author, In the Curated Woods, True Tales from a Grass Widow (iuniverse, 2022)
"If you want fewer detransitioners, perhaps organisations that profit from gender-affirming should drastically review safeguarding procedures and stop people slipping through the net." Exactly.
I read a 2021 survey in which, out of 237 detransitioners, only 10% said discrimination was a factor (and that doens't mean it was the sole or main cause of detransition), and only 13% said lack of support was a factor in their detransition. Meanwhile, 70% had a change of heart, realizing the gender dysphoria was caused by other issues (something other than an actual need to chemically and/or surgically alter their appearance to that of the opposite sex). Yet the lie remains that the tiny amount of detransitioners (they spout a 2% statistic that does not hold true today, and was questionable years ago) detransition only because society is not accepting of them. This is ironic in light of the fact that they also say that the extremely sharp increase in trans-identification, particularly among young people is a result of much better acceptance of transgender individuals. So lack of societal acceptance causes detransition and societal acceptance causes the sharp increase in transitioning. And also, we now live in very transphobic times. Hm, I'm getting mental whiplash from turning my brain back and forth to understand these ideas. And when I say "they" are saying this, I hear it often, but I just watched John Olliver say all three things!
Anyway, thank you for putting all this together. When trying to explain what's wrong with the "affirmation theory," one needs facts to work with, and you have gathered many, along with your clear, insightful analysis.
"Yet the lie remains that the tiny amount of detransitioners (they spout a 2% statistic that does not hold true today, and was questionable years ago) detransition only because society is not accepting of them. This is ironic in light of the fact that they also say that the extremely sharp increase in trans-identification, particularly among young people is a result of much better acceptance of transgender individuals. So lack of societal acceptance causes detransition and societal acceptance causes the sharp increase in transitioning. And also, we now live in very transphobic times. Hm, I'm getting mental whiplash from turning my brain back and forth to understand these ideas."
Yup, their rhetoric does not stand up to scrutiny. I wish more people would take a moment to question all the contradictions instead of just blindly accepting one-liners.
thanks for this info. the public thirsts for knowledge about these issues and seems addicted to these false narratives supplied by the gender indusyry. in a way the propagandists are simply giving the public what they want. initially the person interfering or interrupting an addict with their high is an unwelcome guest. but eventually some may realize they shouldnt be glad about info that ultimately harms many by supporting fraudulant care. dead men tell no tales and i dont blame the ones who barely made it or are barely making it if they dont get involved. in my opinion detrans could be up to 75%. theres no evidence its not. counts designed to specially exclude detrans ppl are like saying theres no such thing as rocks bcuz we checked the entire sky. studys showing kids desist without meds or social transition to me give better evidence of desistance rates. also, how quicky gender care and meds are provided make the issue partially moot. the clinics could provide all sorts of #s. but they dont. they dont want to know how many regret
I love this line: "counts designed to specially exclude detrans ppl are like saying theres no such thing as rocks bcuz we checked the entire sky."
And I especially agree with the sentiment that they don't want to know how many regret... they just want to keep this train plowing along as quickly as possible and want nothing & no one to get in it's way.
Ritchie, at the risk of overstepping, I would like to contact you regarding therapeutic concepts for your group of detrans men. I see categories:
1. Physical health, the hormones & surgeries decisions. Therapies for bone stability (as a post-menopausal woman, I wonder. We are told to be active, do weight bearing activities) There is the additional trial of having scars. Acupuncture may help. Breast implants are only made to last 10 years. I think my ex is on his third (always bigger) so removal surgery~not replacement.
2. The burden of knowing it was mental health and surgical malpractice (you are doing much on this front with your lawsuit. Please keep in mind that doctors are watching. Some may put down the scalpel. Candice Bone is the US attorney starting to handle malpractice cases. (yup. search results)
3. The deep societal influences. Is there any benefit to looking into male relatives before the fathers? The pre-WW2 generation had it different. Women died, men had to bottle-feed and raise children. Histories of trauma are hard to examine, but after, there is relief. I know. Have done.
uteheggengrasswidow.wordpress.com (contact form--not on twitter, yet)